tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post5978243763084104331..comments2023-05-23T00:59:44.839-07:00Comments on Dr. Wafeeq Sabir: Alternative School or PrisonDr. Wafeeq Sabirhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13290518616588615680noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-10408468228301626882011-04-23T09:16:17.676-07:002011-04-23T09:16:17.676-07:00The situation with alternative schooling is unfort...The situation with alternative schooling is unfortunate. The situation with regular public schooling is also very unfortunate. Kids are being failed on every level in our schools. Schools need to get more creative about the way they serve the students. There are more ways to achieve success besides the current unsuccessful way. Citizens should get more involved and try to fill in the blanks that alternative schools and troubled homes leave. This way at least more kids have an opportunity to receive the crucial guidance they may not get at home.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-29957350458663708072011-04-09T11:35:08.681-07:002011-04-09T11:35:08.681-07:00I think your onto something with the fact that the...I think your onto something with the fact that they are told for so long that they are believed to be "violent, aggresive, or out of control", if young people are subconsciously understanding this is whats expected of them, well, why not fulfill it?CSPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-83182060565674999192011-04-08T22:04:04.704-07:002011-04-08T22:04:04.704-07:00It never accured to me that the young people in Al...It never accured to me that the young people in Alternative Schools were subconsciously preparing themselves for prison. I always just looked at Alternative Schools as controlled or regimented environments. Something more like the bootcamp or the military. A place for the young people to get focused and discipline. However, I never have visited an Alternative School, so I really don't know what it is like. But it would be nice, if the students would cease to offer them business. This would mean that everyone is behaving in an acceptable manner. AC - TCC/SOCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-4413854495948148482011-04-06T21:58:52.389-07:002011-04-06T21:58:52.389-07:00Tra'Lena Watson
I feel as though just because...Tra'Lena Watson<br /><br />I feel as though just because you are in an alternative school doesnt mean you are a bad person just some one that has made bad choices. But it is up to us as an society to not put ourselves in these positions were our freedom is in a way taken away to a certain degree. Because freedom to me is a right but society in my eyes think it is a previelege.Tralena Watsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-50751659176833239122011-04-06T20:08:02.941-07:002011-04-06T20:08:02.941-07:00Hardik P said...
I think it is perfectly okay to ...Hardik P said...<br /><br />I think it is perfectly okay to put children in alternative schools if they don't know how to behalf like all the other children in the school. But alternative school shouldn't be like prison as what Dr.Sabir said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-1583270347721007172011-04-05T21:55:20.603-07:002011-04-05T21:55:20.603-07:00I think that a child's home life and family is...I think that a child's home life and family is a big part of how they act in and feel about school or classes. what they get from listening to their family and people from their neighborhood it's just instilled in them that cretin things are not important so they see just give up and in some cases they do correlate alternative school with jail thinking that once they get back to regular school they see it as a way to get respect from other classmates.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11165289063953309558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-28071980545005451342011-04-05T15:19:53.651-07:002011-04-05T15:19:53.651-07:00I'm glad that you touch on this subject. I us...I'm glad that you touch on this subject. I use to work for transportation for fort Worth ISD and I use to drive "alternative" students to their school. The things I seen how they treat students it is no wonder why the students act the way they do. You treat them like prison, they will act like inmates.Broderick Egginsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-33052019962757308322011-04-05T12:33:49.758-07:002011-04-05T12:33:49.758-07:00I definitely agree with your last challenge statem...I definitely agree with your last challenge statement to the children. However I must say that these students behave in this manner partially because of the way they are treated as children. For example, if a child is consistently told he is bound to end up in prison some day whether he excels or fails based on his socioeconomic status and racial identity, he may revert to behavior that will institutionalize him just because of the old saying "damned if i do, damned if i don't". I believe the school system isolates certain groups of students that they expect to act in this manner, and treats them in a way that encourages them to perform the very behavior the school discourages in the first place. <br />I don't agree with "prison-like" conditions for children, and like you said, it only prepares them for prison time. In addition to this, a child who is a little disruptive, but is not doing anything serious, is thrown into a network of other teens that are disobeying authority often to a much greater extent. This exposure can cause the only slightly disobedient youth to go down a much darker path by helping him relate to these other kids through the common ground of imprisonment.<br />Social Psychology MW 5:30PM TCCSELisa Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-68212217618961186162011-04-04T22:17:50.369-07:002011-04-04T22:17:50.369-07:00This is a very good thing to talk about. However I...This is a very good thing to talk about. However I don't believe that young adults should be able to commit a crime and still be able to go to an alternative school to become a "better" person. Unless children or young adults committing a crime learn by doing some kind of charity work or even some time in jail/juvenile detention. I strongly believe that putting an alternative school out of business is a good idea just because weather being in a regular school or an alternative school it's not going to change the mind of a person to commit a crime or not to commit the crime. In my opinion I think prison is a better way for someone to learn from their right and wrongs then to put them back in the same place they were before which is school.Purvinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-25404658526009425162011-04-03T13:33:26.365-07:002011-04-03T13:33:26.365-07:00Great view! I understand that some children/young ...Great view! I understand that some children/young adults, commit crimes, however, I'm not totally convinced that alternative school or juvenile detention is the best answer! I would love to see these children do community service for the people/places for whom/where they commit the crimes. For example, graffiti done on a place of business, have the child paint the wall or better yet the whole business. Sometimes when a child is having to make a wrong into a right, the lesson is best learned by hard work. The memory of the hard work will serve as a reminder!Val Davilanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-40672994047299934002010-12-15T15:26:07.491-08:002010-12-15T15:26:07.491-08:00I agree. Life is about choices. To not be counted ...I agree. Life is about choices. To not be counted as a negative statistic and placed in alternative school/prison children should make more positive choices. <br />Andrea W.Andreahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03100087067657970503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-34534531981228335772010-12-03T12:59:58.241-08:002010-12-03T12:59:58.241-08:00I think these schools are there for a reason. lik...I think these schools are there for a reason. like prisons they are too keep the type of people we deem not fit for society out of our society. You say that we should put these schools out of business but i would like to see you send your kids to school with the newly released aggressive, out of control kids that will now fill the class room.<br /><br />-Ruben RicoRubenRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02331583155706377630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-18565353586169449522010-11-29T20:42:26.366-08:002010-11-29T20:42:26.366-08:00Our children should not place themselves in situat...Our children should not place themselves in situations where they jepordize their education or freedom. We as parents must help our children realize the importance of the choices they make. The choices our children make start with our choices, you cannot tell your child not to do something if you are doing it. We as parents must lead by example.Dayonenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-394590765523680212010-05-09T18:46:52.209-07:002010-05-09T18:46:52.209-07:00I also think this is awesome, very well thought. T...I also think this is awesome, very well thought. That is a great point to make, to put the alternative schools out of business by not returning. And also to stop giving up there fundamental rights and take what has been given to them. Live life to the fullest and stop giving it up to schools and prisons.samgotups07https://www.blogger.com/profile/16277632970997647192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-58718239068830494212010-05-09T11:47:33.164-07:002010-05-09T11:47:33.164-07:00I totally agree with you on this. Alternative scho...I totally agree with you on this. Alternative school really not a way to starighten up a kid. But maybe it can be part of it but it is like a prison. They have to wear the same clothing, line up in a line in order and this does seems like as if you are in a prison. I think if parents step up and look after their kids then we shouldn't have much problems. Education is very crucial and when parents puts these rules for kids maybe they will stay out of trouble. Parents can even have activities for thenm like get them involved in sports at school and have some activitis where the kid enjoys it and likes to go to school. This way they will be busy and stay out of trouble. Nida Raja.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-21218058507061469172010-05-09T10:21:04.178-07:002010-05-09T10:21:04.178-07:00I'm not so sure if kids really see these schoo...I'm not so sure if kids really see these schools how they are supposed too. My husbands nephew had to go and it seems like he's going on the same track. On the other hand it might be like a prison where people just keep coming back and don't learn their lesson the first time. However, this all has to do with the parent and discipline at home. Parents have alot to do with their childs outcome in life, and not being involved how they are supposed to lead to these criminals. Sometimes!Sobe OZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14879356106513595516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-12424731054781264242010-05-08T12:52:03.024-07:002010-05-08T12:52:03.024-07:00I think that those of us who are a little older an...I think that those of us who are a little older and can remember that alternative schools had a bad name. These schools now actually try to rehabilitate the kids. This is a better option for these young people than going to prison where they become professional criminals.da40pilothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09922367624476309714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-41234010381792241622010-05-05T20:20:25.568-07:002010-05-05T20:20:25.568-07:00I feel that these children are being let down firs...I feel that these children are being let down first and foremost at home. The brunt of the responsibility of what these children do should fall on the parents. Through child abuse policies while occasionally necessary have taken the control out of the parents hands for fear of being turned in. While I was growing up all the parents on the street had the right to inform my parents when I messed up and my parents punished me, not through beatings but discipline. When you don't hold children accountable from the beginning should you really be shocked that by the time they are teens they are out of control and respect no one and nothing.Rynckohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05073033545338964742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-24893525982854293452010-05-05T13:25:16.066-07:002010-05-05T13:25:16.066-07:00I agree totally with trying to put thise schools o...I agree totally with trying to put thise schools out of business, and for these kids and young adults not going back to these schools. But I do believe that some of these kids and young adults need to go to schools like this so that they can get a reality check, and to show them that the direction they are heading in their lives is not where they need to be going. Educating these kids and young adults in schools like these and disiplining these people are some of the many steps that have to be taken in order to atempt to get these people back on the right track, because it is our responsibility as community to help these people regardless if people agree or disagree with it.Joel ENglishnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-8612415363073795982010-05-05T10:32:05.157-07:002010-05-05T10:32:05.157-07:00Marie07
I agree with your statement to encourage ...Marie07<br /><br />I agree with your statement to encourage our youth from becoming comfortable with this type of treatment. Some student do benefit from the structure they lack from home. I also have worked in the public school system for 6 years and yes some of our youth are angry and others misguided but I always try to open up to them and show them that I care. Sometimes, that was all the kids needed to have someone no matter who care for them. For many teens the structure given at an alternative school is more than what they get from home. So in a way some of the students attending these types of alternative schools may feel that this is a sign to them that the system cares.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-68488446933283264622010-05-04T07:54:52.564-07:002010-05-04T07:54:52.564-07:00Alternative school in my opinion is a very structu...Alternative school in my opinion is a very structured institution. In many ways it can be compared to juvenile correction system. I have a cousin that was this year placed in an alternative education program, they were not allowed to take backpacks, they where not allowed to where undershirts or shorts under there pants. I believe in some instances alternative education can be helpful or is necessary in the discipline of students.but too often are there extremes in these environments where as students are not allowed to move without permission or express themselves through speech. I also agree with Dr. Sabir that these institutions will only exist as long as our youth allows.DJOHNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-7144801884687401782010-05-03T20:42:50.026-07:002010-05-03T20:42:50.026-07:00I do agree with your opinion of alternative school...I do agree with your opinion of alternative schools, however, in certain circumstances, I do believe alternative schools are very beneficial. Many of my classmates in New Jersey were sent to alternative schools because they were fighting, skipping classes, being disruptive, constantly being suspended and so on. After attending alternative schools about 80% of them became "rehabilitated" and were able to attend regular school. The start was very difficult for them and they started off worse, but after a while the militant style of these alternative schools whipped them into shape. The other 20%, however, became even more hostile and disruptive. They could not live shackled or in a sense "imprisoned." It truly all depends on the student.<br />-Elira SulejmaniElira Sulejmaninoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-61801564155271356012010-05-03T12:10:21.829-07:002010-05-03T12:10:21.829-07:00Alternative School or Prison..
Depending on the s...Alternative School or Prison..<br /><br />Depending on the situation, if children are acting out at such a young age something is really going on with them at home. Their life must not be what it should be whether it is discipline, abuse, not loved and they could have some mental issues. If alternative schools are “Prison Like” that’s a sad situation, I do believe in tough love but I think if we are spending so much money in other countries why don’t we put some of that money back and educate, counsel and help our own youth. Some parents have lost the ability to discipline because our system has taught them to call “CPS” for any little thing or they’re not fit to raise children but continue to have them. Please I was told I may discipline my child in the manner I want, as long as I leave no bruises/blood. The parents have to take Control as babies, teach them respect first and foremost, that’s a must in my home especially “YES MAM, NO MAM.” I’m a single mom and have worked two jobs, plus college which is NO excuse to allow my children to act in a different manner but to respect. Which teaches them when they are in society how to act and respect others. My belief is if they are raised right at Home we wouldn’t have all the problems in society today. <br />Carmen LujanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-55852192925280854492010-04-29T19:11:31.432-07:002010-04-29T19:11:31.432-07:00Alternative School or Prison? I would choose neith...Alternative School or Prison? I would choose neither. I would like to try an experiment, only if it was possible though. Taking away young students freedom for one day. Try putting every student, bad or good, in a maximum security prison for a day and no they don't all go together. Just one student at a time, so they know no one. I think most young students that have just start causing trouble but haven't got caught up yet would rethink once they experience that. Leaving them in prison one full day, after a day they will feel very eager that they are out of prison and won't want to return.Donald Trannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5130961368020242719.post-54535991770440418992010-04-28T13:59:51.096-07:002010-04-28T13:59:51.096-07:00I agree, and if the kids are bad enough then they ...I agree, and if the kids are bad enough then they have to send them somewhere, but being almost as hard as it would be in a prison would not seem to be legal for the schoolJoel Englishnoreply@blogger.com